Discussion:
If Parvati and Amanda were tied 4-4, then what?
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f***@aol.com
2008-05-12 07:00:48 UTC
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So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).

-Frank
Ar Q
2008-05-12 07:14:52 UTC
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<***@aol.com> wrote in message news:d5f384df-adcc-40c9-b728-***@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

Then they split the money.
FirstHit
2008-05-12 07:37:09 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
Whatever they do, they probably want to leave it as a surprise, so we
probably won't know until the situation arises.

FirstHit
Lord Vader III
2008-05-12 10:05:30 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
-Frank
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.

LVIII
Mallard
2008-05-12 10:43:05 UTC
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 03:05:30 -0700 (PDT), Lord Vader III
Post by Lord Vader III
Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
-Frank
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.
LVIII
Purple Rock
alooo
2008-05-12 12:22:07 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.
I don't know how they'd handle a tie but I can't believe a game of "Outwit,
Outlast, Outplay" would end with two people splitting the money.

I'm sure the rules for a tie are in place and that we'll only learn about
those rules if/when there's a tie or when the show ends and Jeff writes his
tell-all.
Brian Burce
2008-05-12 13:27:10 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Lord Vader III
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.
I don't know how they'd handle a tie but I can't believe a game of "Outwit,
Outlast, Outplay" would end with two people splitting the money.
I'm sure the rules for a tie are in place and that we'll only learn about
those rules if/when there's a tie or when the show ends and Jeff writes his
tell-all.
On the French Survivor it happend, I believe, twice(maybe only once,
now that I think about it) and they just split the money. I'm guessing
they would have an America's Tribal Council and have the viewers vote
for one of the final two.
D-W
2008-05-12 14:04:57 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Lord Vader III
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.
I don't know how they'd handle a tie but I can't believe a game of "Outwit,
Outlast, Outplay" would end with two people splitting the money.
I'm sure the rules for a tie are in place and that we'll only learn about
those rules if/when there's a tie or when the show ends and Jeff writes his
tell-all.
If it had been a tie, MB would have had months to devise a plan to
deal with it.
kenny blankenship
2008-05-14 01:07:59 UTC
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Post by Lord Vader III
I would guess they would just split the money. I really don't think
the jury could revote after they have watched the entire season on TV.
The crew knows the votes as they're made. If there was a tie they could
re-vote during the final tribal council on the island.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-12 10:59:50 UTC
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If Parvati and Amanda were tied....hmmmm.....
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-12 11:01:05 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been?
I wondered that myself.

Of course, it was a moot point from the beginning: there was no way
they'd put on the reunion show if the votes were 4-4.

And Parvati should have known that. After a certain point, it was no
surprise that Parvati won.
alooo
2008-05-12 12:19:17 UTC
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Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Of course, it was a moot point from the beginning: there was no way
they'd put on the reunion show if the votes were 4-4.
Do you think they'd just cancel the show?
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-12 12:43:24 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Of course, it was a moot point from the beginning: there was no way
they'd put on the reunion show if the votes were 4-4.
Do you think they'd just cancel the show?
Not sure what they'd do. I sincerely doubt they'd pull a purple rock.
Michael Black
2008-05-12 13:38:30 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Of course, it was a moot point from the beginning: there was no way
they'd put on the reunion show if the votes were 4-4.
Do you think they'd just cancel the show?
I was really hoping for a tie. I wanted to know what they'd do. Would
Jeff come back from "counting the ballots" and say "well we have a tie,
the boys behind the scene say we have to deal with it here"?

Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well now
we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us from
doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the parking
lot...".

Michael
Obveeus
2008-05-12 14:09:52 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well now
we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us from
doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the parking
lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass without
Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
D-W
2008-05-12 15:16:29 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well now
we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us from
doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the parking
lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass without
Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
I bet that Cirie could get one going quickly, but you are correct, it
would have to be some challenge that would be decided very quickly.
Like an audience vote.
JimH
2008-05-12 07:26:48 UTC
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Post by D-W
Post by Obveeus
Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well
now we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us
from doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the
parking lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass
without Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
I bet that Cirie could get one going quickly, but you are correct, it
would have to be some challenge that would be decided very quickly.
Like an audience vote.
Or... Best of 5: Rock, Paper, Scissors
KLAY
2008-05-12 16:17:17 UTC
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ridiculous.
Post by D-W
Like an audience vote.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-12 16:09:12 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well now
we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us from
doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the parking
lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass without
Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
The entire WEEK would pass without either being able to light a fire.
JimH
2008-05-12 12:40:22 UTC
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Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Post by Obveeus
Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well
now we're in a pickle. There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us
from doing challenges inside. So, we've set up a challenge in the
parking lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass
without Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
The entire WEEK would pass without either being able to light a fire.
One thing I saw during the final four. ONE of them, I forget which, was shown
using the "magnesium stick" properly!!
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-12 20:44:55 UTC
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Post by JimH
One thing I saw during the final four. ONE of them, I forget which, was shown
using the "magnesium stick" properly!!
That was Cirie, who can start a fire as easily as most people breathe.
d***@webtv.net
2008-05-12 20:57:18 UTC
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Jim H wondered about the fire-starter...they showed Cirie light a fire
with 2 slashes.

Maybe THAT is what you're wondering about.
JimH
2008-05-12 13:14:24 UTC
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Post by d***@webtv.net
Jim H wondered about the fire-starter...they showed Cirie light a fire
with 2 slashes.
Maybe THAT is what you're wondering about.
I thought it was Cirie, but not certain enough to name her. I was just so
stunned after seeing so many of them shave that thing down to nothing trying
to use the sparks to ignite the kindling.
Pokee
2008-05-13 02:13:20 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Post by Michael Black
Or better, he reads the ballots at the reunion, and then says "well now
we're in a pickle.  There's a tie, but fire regulations forbid us from
doing challenges inside.  So, we've set up a challenge in the parking
lot...".
The prblem is that the entire 1 hour reunion show would likely pass without
Amanda or Parvati ever being able to light a fire.
Parv was useless - but Amanda proved to be physically dominant
(catching a shark, finding hidden immunity idol).

Amanda would have started the fire, while Parv was off flirting with a
member of the audience...
Obveeus
2008-05-13 02:57:50 UTC
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Post by Pokee
Parv was useless - but Amanda proved to be physically dominant
(catching a shark, finding hidden immunity idol).
Amanda didn't really 'catch a shark'. She 9or maybe someone else) left a
net out overnight and she found the about dead shark caught up in it the
next day.
D-W
2008-05-13 03:02:30 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Post by Pokee
Parv was useless - but Amanda proved to be physically dominant
(catching a shark, finding hidden immunity idol).
Amanda didn't really 'catch a shark'. She 9or maybe someone else) left a
net out overnight and she found the about dead shark caught up in it the
next day.
But using Ozzy's rose-colored glasses, Amanda "wrestled a xx pound
shark, and that's pretty sexy..."
Obveeus
2008-05-12 12:43:39 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
Burnett knows the vote at the end of the final TC, so it isn't liek they
actually find out the winner at the reunion show. If there had been a tie
vote, burnett would have done something to break it while they were still at
that final TC.
Most likely scenario: Make the two of them build fire (and give them a 1
hour timelimit after which the $1,000,000 will be split among the jurors).

Other possible scenarios:
1. Some sort of challenge between the jurors where the last place juror is
denied a vote.
2. Throw out the first juror (Eliza in this case).
3. Give the last juror (Cirie) a 'tiebreaker vote'.
4. Announce on Thursday's episode that there will be a vote for 'favorite'
among the 4 remaining players, then hand the money to whichever person in
the finale gets the most votes from the public.

1 and 4 make the most sesne since 2 and 3 would give Burnett the image of
choosing the winner himself.
alooo
2008-05-12 12:54:58 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Burnett knows the vote at the end of the final TC, so it isn't liek they
actually find out the winner at the reunion show. If there had been a tie
vote, burnett would have done something to break it while they were still
at that final TC.
I don't think there's any chance that the tie would be settled at the final
TC. That's too big of a spoiler for the whole jury to be privy to.
Post by Obveeus
Most likely scenario: Make the two of them build fire (and give them a 1
hour timelimit after which the $1,000,000 will be split among the jurors).
1. Some sort of challenge between the jurors where the last place juror
is denied a vote.
2. Throw out the first juror (Eliza in this case).
3. Give the last juror (Cirie) a 'tiebreaker vote'.
4. Announce on Thursday's episode that there will be a vote for
'favorite' among the 4 remaining players, then hand the money to whichever
person in the finale gets the most votes from the public.
1 and 4 make the most sesne since 2 and 3 would give Burnett the image of
choosing the winner himself.
My guess is they'd go with option five- let America vote for who wins-
which would allow them to score one extra episode (as in All-Stars).
Obveeus
2008-05-12 13:51:57 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Obveeus
Burnett knows the vote at the end of the final TC, so it isn't liek they
actually find out the winner at the reunion show. If there had been a
tie vote, burnett would have done something to break it while they were
still at that final TC.
I don't think there's any chance that the tie would be settled at the
final TC. That's too big of a spoiler for the whole jury to be privy to.
The jury wouldn't even have to be privy to it. the jury could have been
dismissed and the fire tiebreaker could be performed outside their view.
Post by alooo
My guess is they'd go with option five- let America vote for who wins-
which would allow them to score one extra episode (as in All-Stars).
The problem is that messes up the timing for the show's airing. If the show
ran a week longer, the surprise of the F2 (rather than F3) would not have
been carried into that final night. Also, there would be a phone in poll
that would be 'spoiled' by other internet polling that would reveal which
player was likely getting the public's vote. Thus, no suspense at all for
the final night.
Morph
2008-05-12 19:21:13 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
Parv and Amanda would have competed in a mud-wrestling contest. [On PPV]
d***@webtv.net
2008-05-12 19:59:54 UTC
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As someone pointed out earlier...MB would have known that it was a tie
and they would have thought of something.

Has a tie ever happened before?

At the TC (on tape)...Jeff walks off into the darkness and appears live
at the final=E9.

Since there is a lot of time...don't they quickly look at the votes and
if it WERE a then...Jeff would come back to TC and break it THERE?


Hmmm...but then they'd know before the final=E9.

Not good.

What WOULD they do?
D-W
2008-05-12 20:18:22 UTC
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Post by d***@webtv.net
As someone pointed out earlier...MB would have known that it was a tie
and they would have thought of something.
Has a tie ever happened before?
At the TC (on tape)...Jeff walks off into the darkness and appears live
at the finalé.
Since there is a lot of time...don't they quickly look at the votes and
if it WERE a then...Jeff would come back to TC and break it THERE?
Hmmm...but then they'd know before the finalé.
Not good.
What WOULD they do?
No ties before.

Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation...
John Poutre
2008-05-12 20:49:01 UTC
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Post by D-W
Post by d***@webtv.net
As someone pointed out earlier...MB would have known that it was a tie
and they would have thought of something.
Has a tie ever happened before?
At the TC (on tape)...Jeff walks off into the darkness and appears live
at the finalé.
Since there is a lot of time...don't they quickly look at the votes and
if it WERE a then...Jeff would come back to TC and break it THERE?
Hmmm...but then they'd know before the finalé.
Not good.
What WOULD they do?
No ties before.
Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation...
I am just curious what they would have done. No conspiracy angle, just what
would the tiebreaker have been?
JimH
2008-05-12 13:07:12 UTC
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Post by John Poutre
Post by D-W
No ties before.
Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation...
I am just curious what they would have done. No conspiracy angle, just
what would the tiebreaker have been?
Do you not understand the concept of jury fixing? :D
D-W
2008-05-12 22:17:06 UTC
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:49:01 -0400, "John Poutre"
Post by John Poutre
Post by D-W
Post by d***@webtv.net
As someone pointed out earlier...MB would have known that it was a tie
and they would have thought of something.
Has a tie ever happened before?
At the TC (on tape)...Jeff walks off into the darkness and appears live
at the finalé.
Since there is a lot of time...don't they quickly look at the votes and
if it WERE a then...Jeff would come back to TC and break it THERE?
Hmmm...but then they'd know before the finalé.
Not good.
What WOULD they do?
No ties before.
Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation...
I am just curious what they would have done. No conspiracy angle, just what
would the tiebreaker have been?
No conspiracy suggested, but this is just idle speculation as no one
here knows what would have happened, just as no one here knows what
would have happened in a 3-3 tie when Alexis was booted or a 2-2 tie
if Natalie and Cirie had tried that.
Steven L.
2008-05-12 22:21:28 UTC
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Post by D-W
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:49:01 -0400, "John Poutre"
Post by John Poutre
Post by D-W
Post by d***@webtv.net
As someone pointed out earlier...MB would have known that it was a tie
and they would have thought of something.
Has a tie ever happened before?
At the TC (on tape)...Jeff walks off into the darkness and appears live
at the finalé.
Since there is a lot of time...don't they quickly look at the votes and
if it WERE a then...Jeff would come back to TC and break it THERE?
Hmmm...but then they'd know before the finalé.
Not good.
What WOULD they do?
No ties before.
Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation...
I am just curious what they would have done. No conspiracy angle, just what
would the tiebreaker have been?
No conspiracy suggested, but this is just idle speculation as no one
here knows what would have happened, just as no one here knows what
would have happened in a 3-3 tie when Alexis was booted or a 2-2 tie
if Natalie and Cirie had tried that.
We have experience from past seasons with ties at TCs that take place at
the locale. Ties have been broken by lots (purple rock); by prior
votes; by fire-starting challenges. So nothing MB could invent for
tie-breaking during the time in Micronesia would be that shocking.

But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented.
--
Steven L.
Email: ***@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
The Horny Goat
2008-05-13 08:20:36 UTC
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Post by Steven L.
We have experience from past seasons with ties at TCs that take place at
the locale. Ties have been broken by lots (purple rock); by prior
votes; by fire-starting challenges. So nothing MB could invent for
tie-breaking during the time in Micronesia would be that shocking.
But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented.
I'm convinced that had it been a tie at the start of the finale JP
would have announced an "America's Choice" vote and announced the
result 5 minutes before the end of the finale.
Obveeus
2008-05-13 11:55:47 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
I'm convinced that had it been a tie at the start of the finale JP
would have announced an "America's Choice" vote and announced the
result 5 minutes before the end of the finale.
Would Burnett risk alienating the entire West Coast (and the 4 people
living in the Mountain time zone)?
The Horny Goat
2008-05-14 15:58:37 UTC
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Post by Obveeus
Post by The Horny Goat
I'm convinced that had it been a tie at the start of the finale JP
would have announced an "America's Choice" vote and announced the
result 5 minutes before the end of the finale.
Would Burnett risk alienating the entire West Coast (and the 4 people
living in the Mountain time zone)?
Why not? Big Brother did so routinely last season.
The Horny Goat
2008-05-14 15:57:47 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Steven L.
We have experience from past seasons with ties at TCs that take place at
the locale. Ties have been broken by lots (purple rock); by prior
votes; by fire-starting challenges. So nothing MB could invent for
tie-breaking during the time in Micronesia would be that shocking.
But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented.
I'm convinced that had it been a tie at the start of the finale JP
would have announced an "America's Choice" vote and announced the
result 5 minutes before the end of the finale.
In my original comment I failed to mention that MB knew very well what
the vote was at the beginning of the finale - no one has ever claimed
the urn was sealed between the final tribal council and the reunion
show. So for MB to allow an even number in the jury means he had a
contingency plan to break a tie and I'd bet apples to oranges it was
an "America votes" similar to what they did in Survivor UK 2.

I think that's a really really crummy idea given MB controls how the
public sees the players but probably the fairest way to resolve a tie.
JimH
2008-05-14 09:01:14 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Post by The Horny Goat
Post by Steven L.
We have experience from past seasons with ties at TCs that take place at
the locale. Ties have been broken by lots (purple rock); by prior
votes; by fire-starting challenges. So nothing MB could invent for
tie-breaking during the time in Micronesia would be that shocking.
But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented.
I'm convinced that had it been a tie at the start of the finale JP
would have announced an "America's Choice" vote and announced the
result 5 minutes before the end of the finale.
In my original comment I failed to mention that MB knew very well what
the vote was at the beginning of the finale - no one has ever claimed
the urn was sealed between the final tribal council and the reunion
show. So for MB to allow an even number in the jury means he had a
contingency plan to break a tie and I'd bet apples to oranges it was
an "America votes" similar to what they did in Survivor UK 2.
I think that's a really really crummy idea given MB controls how the
public sees the players but probably the fairest way to resolve a tie.
I don't like the "America Votes" idea either... but we see more of the
finalists than the jury does. Granted, it's editted and possibly/probably
biased, but we see a lot the jury doesn't.

Now... if the only difference was that they CAST their votes at the reunion
show... :) I'd once like to see the reunion show begin before the last
installment airs. Not much would happen, only to explain to the viewers that
the jury is viewing this the same time we are... then cut to the episode.
Episode ends and we viewers are puzzled at the lack of a vote. Cut back live.
That's when we learn of this twist.
Elmo P. Shagnasty
2008-05-14 20:43:23 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
In my original comment I failed to mention that MB knew very well what
the vote was at the beginning of the finale - no one has ever claimed
the urn was sealed between the final tribal council and the reunion
show.
And in fact, the urn is never sealed or in an unknown state as Jeff
shows the vote to the camera.

The votes are ALWAYS put in an order that maximizes
entertainment/suspense first and foremost.

Yes, Kenny, the producers DO muck with the slips of paper and present
them in a highly produced manner.
kenny blankenship
2008-05-14 23:26:06 UTC
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Post by Elmo P. Shagnasty
Yes, Kenny, the producers DO muck with the slips of paper and present
them in a highly produced manner.
Duh! Wake me up when someone is claiming that the producers muck with
the votes.
alooo
2008-05-14 23:44:19 UTC
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"The Horny Goat" <***@home.ca> wrote
So for MB to allow an even number in the jury means he had a
Post by The Horny Goat
contingency plan to break a tie and I'd bet apples to oranges it was
an "America votes" similar to what they did in Survivor UK 2.
I think that's a really really crummy idea given MB controls how the
public sees the players but probably the fairest way to resolve a tie.
I think America's vote is the most likely tiebreaker method but I don't
think it's the fairest. It's tantamount to a producers' choice, since
they're the ones that control our perceptions of these people. They might as
well have Jeff cast his vote at the final TC and use that to break a tie.

I think the fairest method would be some sort of challenge that incorporates
the concepts of "Outwit, Outlast, Outplay."

d***@webtv.net
2008-05-13 16:19:35 UTC
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Steven said...and I agree:

"But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented."

Right...and as I said...Jeff walks off into the darkness...and they
would know if it was a tie not long after.

(I don't think anyone here thinks that they actually take the
urn...sealed...back to the U.S.)

So...they'd have to do SOMETHING.

Making fire in the U.S. in dresses wouldn't work.

Leaving things to luck wouldn't be good.

ANYTHING at the finale would be weird but they'd HAVE to do
it...otherwise, if they did it at camp...every player would know the
winner when they got to the states.

See? It's not so simple...that's why I asked.

The live finale show...it's a tie...and they open the curtains and show
a bowling alley?

I think not.

Jeff (actually MB) would have had to come up with a tie-breaker that
could be done live.

Hmmmmm.

There MUST be an answer as to what they would do.

If little Morrie Burnett, son of Mark is reading this group...just tell
us.

The game is over. :)
kenny blankenship
2008-05-14 01:27:41 UTC
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Post by d***@webtv.net
"But to have a tie-breaker back in the States after the final TC is
supposedly over would be truly unprecedented."
Right...and as I said...Jeff walks off into the darkness...and they
would know if it was a tie not long after.
They have camera guys filming them writing their votes out. "They" know
the outcome of the vote before the last ballot is completed.
Post by d***@webtv.net
ANYTHING at the finale would be weird but they'd HAVE to do
it...otherwise, if they did it at camp...every player would know the
winner when they got to the states.
Revealing the winner on location isn't an issue. They did that in the
first season. Besides they don't have to reveal the winner, they'd just
have to reveal that it was a tie and do what ever they've got planned
for the tie breaker.
Post by d***@webtv.net
See? It's not so simple...that's why I asked.
It is simple, they have a plan in place. A tie has been possible for the
last several seasons.
Post by d***@webtv.net
Jeff (actually MB) would have had to come up with a tie-breaker that
could be done live.
MB _has_ come up with a tie-breaker that can be handled on location at
the time, or that can be done live.
d***@webtv.net
2008-05-12 21:03:47 UTC
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About a 4-4 tie...Dubya asked me:

"Doob, I cannot believe you are getting caught up in this
speculation..."

Why? No joke...It COULD have happened right?

Jeff said...something like...'It's 4-3...a vote for Amanda would make it
a tie.'

I thought that he was gonna say what would happen in that case.

But...he already knew...but I wonder what would happen on the island if
they realized that they had a tie.

No joke...I just wonder.
JimH
2008-05-12 12:42:12 UTC
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Post by Morph
Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
Parv and Amanda would have competed in a mud-wrestling contest. [On PPV]
Make that chocolate pudding... and guess who would volunteer to clean them
off, and how. :D

Ok, I would too - but that's not what I was referring to.
Ron
2008-05-13 02:19:40 UTC
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Post by f***@aol.com
So for 4 seasons now, they've had the possibility of a tie in the
final vote (for this season it would have been if Parvati and Amanda
had 4 votes each), but they've avoided that scenario so far. Does
anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure would have
been? Would they have to make fire live? Would the jury have to
revote after another plea from Amanda and Parvati? Would they simply
split the million? Just wonder if anyone has inside info, Jeff
Probst hasn't said anything about it yet (or if he had I missed it).
-Frank
Naked oil wrestling match.
Nova
2008-05-13 09:16:13 UTC
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Does anybody know what the official tie-breaking procedure
would have been?
According to Amanda when she gave an interview to RealityTVWorld:
Reality TV World: Did Survivor host Jeff Probst
ever explain what would have happened if there'd
been a 4-4 jury vote tie? If so, what was the answer?

Amanda: No, he didn't ever tell us. There was a
white envelope. I don't know what was in it, but that
was supposed to be the tie-breaker if there was one.
But I have no idea. I know as much about it as you do.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-amanda-kimmel-talks-about-survivor-losing-twice-in-row-7096.php

Nova
d***@webtv.net
2008-05-13 16:27:57 UTC
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Best answer about the tie so far Nova.

Thanks.

What could be in that envelope?

The choice of the EARLY evictees?

Oooh, that would be interesting.

They saw the entire game at home.

How many WERE there....10?

That could be a tie also...but it probably wasn't if Jeff had an
envelope.
Morph
2008-05-13 19:39:42 UTC
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Post by d***@webtv.net
Best answer about the tie so far Nova.
Better than mud-wrestling?
bob wald
2008-05-13 17:00:01 UTC
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i think they woulda had to wrestle in mud.lol
Morph
2008-05-13 19:42:28 UTC
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Post by bob wald
i think they woulda had to wrestle in mud.lol
My royalty check in the mail?
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