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S48 Ep02 Spoilers and Comments (3/5/2025)
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Brian Smith
2025-03-05 22:34:53 UTC
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Tonight's episode is titled "Humbled Traits" and it's 90 minutes long as
TAR37 (?) premieres right after.

More later...
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Brian
Brian Smith
2025-03-06 21:36:23 UTC
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Tonight's episode is titled "Humbled Traits" and it's 90 minutes long as
TAR37 (?) premieres right after.
More later...
Zeppo, looks like your assessment about Vula not being made for
challenges is true. They also appear to suck at strategy.

Anyway, here's what stuck out for me.

--Mary's bangs are gone!

--Star has it out for Eva for some reason. I have a feeling that this is
going to be a key element of the season.

--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting others
solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.

--Joe and Eva worked very well together in the IC/RC. IIRC, Eva was/is
the captain of her hockey team, so I'm not surprised she can work well
with others under pressure. Same goes for Joe being a firefighter. They
also were a good pair throwing the balls into the "net."

--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape because
she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe. Was she
pissed because Eva said she should out?

--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.

--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?

--Kevin's game play was so bad that they didn't even attempt to make it
look like he might survive the episode. He sucked in the challenge and
he totally misread his alliance when it came to blindsiding Sai.Bad
acting at TC also.

--I'm glad Mary survived. I want to see her take out Sai.

This was an average episode but I think they laid the groundwork for
some future storylines.
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Brian
Rick
2025-03-06 22:55:13 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "Humbled Traits" and it's 90 minutes long
as TAR37 (?) premieres right after.
More later...
Zeppo, looks like your assessment about Vula not being made for
challenges is true. They also appear to suck at strategy.
Anyway, here's what stuck out for me.
--Mary's bangs are gone!
--Star has it out for Eva for some reason. I have a feeling that this is
going to be a key element of the season.
--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting others
solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.
--Joe and Eva worked very well together in the IC/RC. IIRC, Eva was/is
the captain of her hockey team, so I'm not surprised she can work well
with others under pressure. Same goes for Joe being a firefighter. They
also were a good pair throwing the balls into the "net."
--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape because
she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe. Was she
pissed because Eva said she should out?
Seems like it. Keep in mind Eva admits to not understanding body
language, and she probably doesn't realize the effect of her saying
bluntly that Star should sit out. It's also odd the tribe would sit out
Star, since the challenge involved shooting balls into a hoop and it was
said that Star has basketball experience.
Post by Brian Smith
--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.
Well it says Mitch is a P.E. teacher in real-life, so he must have some
sports experience/aptitude. I think the key to that challenge is using
the Wilt Chamberlain free-shot style of underhand shooting rather the
normal overhand style everyone else used. He did that to perfection
with high arch shots that came right down the middle into the basket -
effectively, nothing but net.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?
Only thing I can think of was she was doing a bit of God talk when she
was saying things like God created body imperfections for whatever
reason she said, and maybe that was a turn-off to the other players.
Post by Brian Smith
--Kevin's game play was so bad that they didn't even attempt to make it
look like he might survive the episode. He sucked in the challenge and
he totally misread his alliance when it came to blindsiding Sai.Bad
acting at TC also.
I was pleased that for the second episode in a row, the player voted out
was someone I didn't care for.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'm glad Mary survived. I want to see her take out Sai.
I like Mary too, but I also kind like Sei. I like her enthusiasm for
playing and the proactive approach she has taken to various game
emements. I'm still trying to figure out who she reminds me of It's
not Katurah, and I'm not sure it's even someone who looks like Sei.
There's some past female player who had a similar attitude and approach
tot he game, but it's just not clocking with me right now.
Post by Brian Smith
This was an average episode but I think they laid the groundwork for
some future storylines.
Agree on both counts.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 00:03:16 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "Humbled Traits" and it's 90 minutes long
as TAR37 (?) premieres right after.
More later...
Zeppo, looks like your assessment about Vula not being made for
challenges is true. They also appear to suck at strategy.
Anyway, here's what stuck out for me.
--Mary's bangs are gone!
--Star has it out for Eva for some reason. I have a feeling that this
is going to be a key element of the season.
--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting
others solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.
--Joe and Eva worked very well together in the IC/RC. IIRC, Eva was/is
the captain of her hockey team, so I'm not surprised she can work well
with others under pressure. Same goes for Joe being a firefighter.
They also were a good pair throwing the balls into the "net."
--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape because
she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe. Was she
pissed because Eva said she should out?
Seems like it.  Keep in mind Eva admits to not understanding body
language, and she probably doesn't realize the effect of her saying
bluntly that Star should sit out.  It's also odd the tribe would sit out
Star, since the challenge involved shooting balls into a hoop and it was
said that Star has basketball experience.
That's a great point about Eva and of course Star doesn't know that. I
forgot that Star has basketball experience so it is odd that she was
chosen to sit out. But it's also possible that she said she's weak at
swimming.
Post by Brian Smith
--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.
Well it says Mitch is a P.E. teacher in real-life, so he must have some
sports experience/aptitude.  I think the key to that challenge is using
the Wilt Chamberlain free-shot style of underhand shooting rather the
normal overhand style everyone else used.  He did that to perfection
with high arch shots that came right down the middle into the basket -
effectively, nothing but net.
Dalton reminded people last night that he's been a huge advocate for
underhanded shooting for years. It does seem to give the shooter a lot
more control of their shots than using overhand style. Mitch made it
look very easy.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?
Only thing I can think of was she was doing a bit of God talk when she
was saying things like God created body imperfections for whatever
reason she said, and maybe that was a turn-off to the other players.
If that's the case, she needs to survive along enough to get on a
tribe/alliance with other people.
Post by Brian Smith
--Kevin's game play was so bad that they didn't even attempt to make
it look like he might survive the episode. He sucked in the challenge
and he totally misread his alliance when it came to blindsiding
Sai.Bad acting at TC also.
I was pleased that for the second episode in a row, the player voted out
was someone I didn't care for.
Apparently Survivor is not the first show for Kevin. He was the first
boot on Bear Gyllis's reality show.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'm glad Mary survived. I want to see her take out Sai.
I like Mary too, but I also kind like Sei.  I like her enthusiasm for
playing and the proactive approach she has taken to various game
emements.  I'm still trying to figure out who she reminds me of  It's
not Katurah, and I'm not sure it's even someone who looks like Sei.
There's some past female player who had a similar attitude and approach
tot he game, but it's just not clocking with me right now.
Is the player you're thinking of Soda? I agree that Sai is enthusiastic
and proactive, but she's also reckless and naive. I don't think she
understands how deceitful people can be playing the game.

The preview for next week looks interesting. Mary bolting from Sai the
way she did is something I don't recall seeing before.
Post by Brian Smith
This was an average episode but I think they laid the groundwork for
some future storylines.
Agree on both counts.
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Brian
Rick
2025-03-07 01:43:38 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "Humbled Traits" and it's 90 minutes
long as TAR37 (?) premieres right after.
More later...
Zeppo, looks like your assessment about Vula not being made for
challenges is true. They also appear to suck at strategy.
Anyway, here's what stuck out for me.
--Mary's bangs are gone!
--Star has it out for Eva for some reason. I have a feeling that this
is going to be a key element of the season.
--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting
others solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.
--Joe and Eva worked very well together in the IC/RC. IIRC, Eva
was/is the captain of her hockey team, so I'm not surprised she can
work well with others under pressure. Same goes for Joe being a
firefighter. They also were a good pair throwing the balls into the
"net."
--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape
because she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe.
Was she pissed because Eva said she should out?
Seems like it.  Keep in mind Eva admits to not understanding body
language, and she probably doesn't realize the effect of her saying
bluntly that Star should sit out.  It's also odd the tribe would sit
out Star, since the challenge involved shooting balls into a hoop and
it was said that Star has basketball experience.
That's a great point about Eva and of course Star doesn't know that. I
forgot that Star has basketball experience so it is odd that she was
chosen to sit out. But it's also possible that she said she's weak at
swimming.
Post by Brian Smith
--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.
Well it says Mitch is a P.E. teacher in real-life, so he must have
some sports experience/aptitude.  I think the key to that challenge is
using the Wilt Chamberlain free-shot style of underhand shooting
rather the normal overhand style everyone else used.  He did that to
perfection with high arch shots that came right down the middle into
the basket - effectively, nothing but net.
Dalton reminded people last night that he's been a huge advocate for
underhanded shooting for years. It does seem to give the shooter a lot
more control of their shots than using overhand style. Mitch made it
look very easy.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?
Only thing I can think of was she was doing a bit of God talk when she
was saying things like God created body imperfections for whatever
reason she said, and maybe that was a turn-off to the other players.
If that's the case, she needs to survive along enough to get on a
tribe/alliance with other people.
Post by Brian Smith
--Kevin's game play was so bad that they didn't even attempt to make
it look like he might survive the episode. He sucked in the challenge
and he totally misread his alliance when it came to blindsiding
Sai.Bad acting at TC also.
I was pleased that for the second episode in a row, the player voted
out was someone I didn't care for.
Apparently Survivor is not the first show for Kevin. He was the first
boot on Bear Gyllis's reality show.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'm glad Mary survived. I want to see her take out Sai.
I like Mary too, but I also kind like Sei.  I like her enthusiasm for
playing and the proactive approach she has taken to various game
emements.  I'm still trying to figure out who she reminds me of  It's
not Katurah, and I'm not sure it's even someone who looks like Sei.
There's some past female player who had a similar attitude and
approach tot he game, but it's just not clocking with me right now.
Is the player you're thinking of Soda? I agree that Sai is enthusiastic
and proactive, but she's also reckless and naive. I don't think she
understands how deceitful people can be playing the game.
Yeah, it could be Soda. She had kind of a similar interviewing style.
I'll have to re-watch some of her interviews.
Post by Brian Smith
The preview for next week looks interesting. Mary bolting from Sai the
way she did is something I don't recall seeing before.
Post by Brian Smith
This was an average episode but I think they laid the groundwork for
some future storylines.
Agree on both counts.
Zeppo
2025-03-06 23:50:15 UTC
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--Mary's bangs are gone!
They’re still there, but were being held back by a pair of
barrettes in E02.
Post by Brian Smith
--Star has it out for Eva for some reason.
Star didn’t like it when Eva suggested that she should
sit out the next challenge.
Post by Brian Smith
--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting others
solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.
Ha! Thomas suggested that the Debate Professor tell Star that
he had “lost” the decoder. That was even too hard core for DP.
Post by Brian Smith
--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape because
she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe. Was she
pissed because Eva said she should out?
Probably. IMO, the logical person to put on the “sit out bench” would
be either Thomas or Bianca. Star appears to be stronger than both of
them put together. Plus, as Rick pointed out, Star played basketball in
college.
Post by Brian Smith
--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.
His prowess in the basketball toss did not particularly surprise me
given that he is a P.E teacher IRL.
Post by Brian Smith
--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?
In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 00:14:02 UTC
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--Mary's bangs are gone!
They’re still there, but were being held back by a pair of
barrettes in E02.
You're observant!
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Post by Brian Smith
--Star has it out for Eva for some reason.
Star didn’t like it when Eva suggested that she should
sit out the next challenge.
Post by Brian Smith
--Like Sai, Star couldn't figure out the lock idol on her. She didn't
even try! She's also lucky she didn't get screwed over by letting others
solve it for her and telling the rest of the tribe other than Eva.
Ha! Thomas suggested that the Debate Professor tell Star that
he had “lost” the decoder. That was even too hard core for DP.
Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell. I wonder how many artists he's
screwed over?
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Post by Brian Smith
--Speaking of the challenge, why was Star so bent out of shape because
she had to sit out? Someone had to sit out from her tribe. Was she
pissed because Eva said she should out?
Probably. IMO, the logical person to put on the “sit out bench” would
be either Thomas or Bianca. Star appears to be stronger than both of
them put together. Plus, as Rick pointed out, Star played basketball in
college.
I like Bianca. Maybe she'll be like Gen and come to life in the next
episode or two.
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Post by Brian Smith
--Mitch was amazing in the challenge. If the edit was accurate, he
nailed five shots in a row which is impressive as hell.
His prowess in the basketball toss did not particularly surprise me
given that he is a P.E teacher IRL.
Fair point.
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Post by Brian Smith
--I'd like to know how Mitch and Charity bonded so quickly? Also, why
does the rest of the tribe not like her?
In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
That was Kamilla, correct? Isn't she kind of a Canadian by convenience?
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Brian
Zeppo
2025-03-07 01:34:18 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
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Post by Zeppo
In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
That was Kamilla, correct? Isn't she kind of a Canadian by convenience?
Ha Ha! No, she is a Canadian citizen who works/lives in The States.
Just like Shan Smith.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 02:13:34 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Keeping things like advantages a secret s smart, especially this early
in the game. You have to have a lot of trust in someone to let them know
you have a power. I can see Thomas doing some backstabbing. I just hope
it's not Joe and/or Eva that he backstabs.
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In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
That was Kamilla, correct? Isn't she kind of a Canadian by convenience?
Ha Ha! No, she is a Canadian citizen who works/lives in The States.
Just like Shan Smith.
I thought she's originally from India, moved to Canada, and know lives
and works in Silicon Valley? I'm just saying Canada was a pit stop for
her even if she is a Canadian citizen.
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Brian
Rick
2025-03-07 02:58:51 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Keeping things like advantages a secret s smart, especially this early
in the game. You have to have a lot of trust in someone to let them know
you have a power. I can see Thomas doing some backstabbing. I just hope
it's not Joe and/or Eva that he backstabs.
See my reply to Zeppo above. Keep an advantage secret only works if
you're the only one who knows what happened. Mary and Mitch can tell
the others there was no option that said you could just back out and not
do the challenge. I think I've seen other examples like this on the
show of players lying to their tribe about advantages gained on journeys
and getting busted post merge by other players who were on the journey.
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In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
That was Kamilla, correct? Isn't she kind of a Canadian by convenience?
Ha Ha! No, she is a Canadian citizen who works/lives in The States.
Just like Shan Smith.
I thought she's originally from India, moved to Canada, and know lives
and works in Silicon Valley? I'm just saying Canada was a pit stop for
her even if she is a Canadian citizen.
Zeppo
2025-03-07 07:45:27 UTC
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I thought she's originally from India, moved to Canada, and know lives
and works in Silicon Valley? I'm just saying Canada was a pit stop for
her even if she is a Canadian citizen.
You may be right, but if she was born in India she must have moved to
Toronto with her parents when she was very young. In her EW biography
she mentions watching Survivor when she was nine years old.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 20:59:04 UTC
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I thought she's originally from India, moved to Canada, and know lives
and works in Silicon Valley? I'm just saying Canada was a pit stop for
her even if she is a Canadian citizen.
You may be right, but if she was born in India she must have moved to
Toronto with her parents when she was very young. In her EW biography
she mentions watching Survivor when she was nine years old.
I could be wrong but I thought I saw India mentioned in a piece
somewhere about her.
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Brian
Rick
2025-03-07 02:51:45 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Problem is, once they merge or do a tribe swap, people will start to
compare notes and Mitch and Mary, who went on the Journey with Thomas.
will talk to other players, and it may come out that all three players
agreed at the start that they would do the challenges. And when the
instructions for the challenge began, there was no option to quit before
you start to avoid losing a vote. So the story Thomas told about him
deciding not to do the challenge to avoid risking his vote won't really
stand up.

I agree that players should keep advantages secret when only they know
about them, but the one exception is when you go on a journey with other
players who could talk about it when the tribes combine.
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In E01, the Canadian threw shade on Charity by planting the suggestion
that she was untrustworthy.
That was Kamilla, correct? Isn't she kind of a Canadian by convenience?
Ha Ha! No, she is a Canadian citizen who works/lives in The States.
Just like Shan Smith.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 04:16:25 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Problem is, once they merge or do a tribe swap, people will start to
compare notes and Mitch and Mary, who went on the Journey with Thomas.
will talk to other players, and it may come out that all three players
agreed at the start that they would do the challenges.  And when the
instructions for the challenge began, there was no option to quit before
you start to avoid losing a vote.  So the story Thomas told about him
deciding not to do the challenge to avoid risking his vote won't really
stand up.
I agree that players should keep advantages secret when only they know
about them, but the one exception is when you go on a journey with other
players who could talk about it when the tribes combine.
Thomas could have easily said he tried and failed. That's what happened
to Mary and her tribe seemed to believe her. It's possible he thought so
lowly of Mitch and Mary that he believed neither would make the merge.
The more likely reason he lied is that he likes to be deceitful and
screw people over. If Eva's tribe has to go to TC in the future, I hope
they boot him.
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Brian
Rick
2025-03-07 05:52:34 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Problem is, once they merge or do a tribe swap, people will start to
compare notes and Mitch and Mary, who went on the Journey with Thomas.
will talk to other players, and it may come out that all three players
agreed at the start that they would do the challenges.  And when the
instructions for the challenge began, there was no option to quit
before you start to avoid losing a vote.  So the story Thomas told
about him deciding not to do the challenge to avoid risking his vote
won't really stand up.
I agree that players should keep advantages secret when only they know
about them, but the one exception is when you go on a journey with
other players who could talk about it when the tribes combine.
Thomas could have easily said he tried and failed. That's what happened
to Mary and her tribe seemed to believe her. It's possible he thought so
lowly of Mitch and Mary that he believed neither would make the merge.
The more likely reason he lied is that he likes to be deceitful and
screw people over. If Eva's tribe has to go to TC in the future, I hope
they boot him.
If he had said he tried and failed - as Mary correctly did - that would
mean he lost his vote. But if Jeff ends up reading all the votes at
their next TC (assuming they ever go to TC), the tribe would realize he
hadn't lost his vote. So again, he would be caught.

Anyway you slice it, assuming Mary and Mitch remain in the game post
merge or post swap, the only way he can avoid for sure being caught is
to admit he played and won an advantage. Now he could try to lie about
what the advantage was, and maybe there could be some interesting
possibilities there, but I'm not sure what they'd be.

I agree - I hope he gets booted first if they ever go to TC.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 20:56:53 UTC
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Looks like my assessment of Thomas last week was accurate. Guy is
untrustworthy and sketchy as hell.
Smooth lying to his tribe mates about the outcome of his “journey”.
But, he was correct when he said, in confessional, that it is always
better to keep the acquisition of advantages a secret. I think that
he really understands the game, and could do some damage if he
makes it past the merge.
Problem is, once they merge or do a tribe swap, people will start to
compare notes and Mitch and Mary, who went on the Journey with
Thomas. will talk to other players, and it may come out that all
three players agreed at the start that they would do the challenges.
And when the instructions for the challenge began, there was no
option to quit before you start to avoid losing a vote.  So the story
Thomas told about him deciding not to do the challenge to avoid
risking his vote won't really stand up.
I agree that players should keep advantages secret when only they
know about them, but the one exception is when you go on a journey
with other players who could talk about it when the tribes combine.
Thomas could have easily said he tried and failed. That's what
happened to Mary and her tribe seemed to believe her. It's possible he
thought so lowly of Mitch and Mary that he believed neither would make
the merge. The more likely reason he lied is that he likes to be
deceitful and screw people over. If Eva's tribe has to go to TC in the
future, I hope they boot him.
If he had said he tried and failed - as Mary correctly did - that would
mean he lost his vote.  But if Jeff ends up reading all the votes at
their next TC (assuming they ever go to TC), the tribe would realize he
hadn't lost his vote.  So again, he would be caught.
Anyway you slice it, assuming Mary and Mitch remain in the game post
merge or post swap, the only way he can avoid for sure being caught is
to admit he played and won an advantage.  Now he could try to lie about
what the advantage was, and maybe there could be some interesting
possibilities there, but I'm not sure what they'd be.
I agree - I hope he gets booted first if they ever go to TC.
At this stage of the game it's more important to build trust than worry
about a lost vote unless you know you have a target on your back. Based
on the edit, Thomas is in a good position. He would survive going to TC.
Now, as you stated, he's going to get caught. He might be able to lie
his way out of it but I think it will still look sketchy as hell. If
Shauhin (sp?) rats him out to Star he'll be screwed for sure.
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Zeppo
2025-03-07 08:13:37 UTC
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If Eva's tribe has to go to TC in the future, I hope
they boot him.
We don’t really know who is at the bottom of the pecking
order on Purple Tribe yet, only that it is unlikely to be Joe
or Debate Professor. In E02, it certainly appeared that
DP was somewhat less than impressed by Thomas’ hard
ball strategic suggestions, and Star’s edit so far has been
very poor. There is also the mysterious Bianca to consider
as a possible outsider.
Brian Smith
2025-03-07 21:05:37 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
If Eva's tribe has to go to TC in the future, I hope
they boot him.
We don’t really know who is at the bottom of the pecking
order on Purple Tribe yet, only that it is unlikely to be Joe
or Debate Professor. In E02, it certainly appeared that
DP was somewhat less than impressed by Thomas’ hard
ball strategic suggestions, and Star’s edit so far has been
very poor. There is also the mysterious Bianca to consider
as a possible outsider.
At one point in the episode it looked like four of them were ready to
take out Eva if they went to TC. If Thomas keeps making crazy
suggestions I could see the tribe getting rid of him because it's too
hard to deal with someone who appears to not consider consequences.

As for Bianca, my sense is that she's a lot more involved in the game
than we've been shown. She just hasn't done anything big or crazy to get
much airtime.
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Zeppo
2025-03-07 22:05:28 UTC
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At one point in the episode it looked like four of them were ready to
take out Eva if they went to TC.
I didn’t mention Eva in my previous post because I think that she is
safe as houses, at least for the time being. What might really mess
up her game is the tribal shuffle whenever it occurs. If she gets stuck
on a new tribe with a lot of orange and green players, she might be
in trouble.
Post by Brian Smith
As for Bianca, my sense is that she's a lot more involved in the game
than we've been shown. She just hasn't done anything big or crazy to get
much airtime.
Probably. Every season it seems there is one player who I see in the early
episodes who I don’t recognize at all. This season it has been Bianca.
Brian Smith
2025-03-08 02:00:38 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
At one point in the episode it looked like four of them were ready to
take out Eva if they went to TC.
I didn’t mention Eva in my previous post because I think that she is
safe as houses, at least for the time being. What might really mess
up her game is the tribal shuffle whenever it occurs. If she gets stuck
on a new tribe with a lot of orange and green players, she might be
in trouble.
The longer she can stay with Joe the better.
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Rick
2025-03-08 15:31:24 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
At one point in the episode it looked like four of them were ready to
take out Eva if they went to TC.
I didn’t mention Eva in my previous post because I think that she is
safe as houses, at least for the time being. What might really mess
up her game is the tribal shuffle whenever it occurs. If she gets stuck
on a new tribe with a lot of orange and green players, she might be
in trouble.
Post by Brian Smith
As for Bianca, my sense is that she's a lot more involved in the game
than we've been shown. She just hasn't done anything big or crazy to get
much airtime.
Probably. Every season it seems there is one player who I see in the early
episodes who I don’t recognize at all. This season it has been Bianca.
Yeah, there's always at least one "purple" player. How ironic that this
time it happens to be on the purple tribe.

Zeppo
2025-03-07 07:58:09 UTC
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I agree that players should keep advantages secret when only they know
about them, but the one exception is when you go on a journey with other
players who could talk about it when the tribes combine.
That’s a really good point, and if Thomas is outed by either Mitch or Mary
it would be more likely to happen during a tribal shuffle than after the
merge IMO.
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