Having Separate Male and Female Immunity Winners

[Rick]

I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners. I assume the challenges and rules are established in
advance before the cast is selected, and in this day and age, it seems
to me it's only a matter of time before we get a player who identifies
as non-binary. I wonder how the show would handle that in the context
of male and female winners?

Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender females
who were born male and compete in female sports. We have had at least
one transgender cast member in the past and possibly more. Perhaps the
show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay away from gender-based
rewards in the future.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick
I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners.  I assume the challenges and rules are established in
advance before the cast is selected, and in this day and age, it seems
to me it's only a matter of time before we get a player who identifies
as non-binary.  I wonder how the show would handle that in the context
of male and female winners?

The show would probably avoid such a scenario. I don't recall them doing
male and female winners in any of the ICs in the two seasons Zeke played in.

Post by Rick
Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender females
who were born male and compete in female sports.  We have had at least
one transgender cast member in the past and possibly more.  Perhaps the
show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay away from gender-based
rewards in the future.

They will when needed. I don't see a problem with them doing it
otherwise. Do you think Sue could have outlast Kyle?

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick
I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners.  I assume the challenges and rules are established
in advance before the cast is selected, and in this day and age, it
seems to me it's only a matter of time before we get a player who
identifies as non-binary.  I wonder how the show would handle that in
the context of male and female winners?

The show would probably avoid such a scenario. I don't recall them doing
male and female winners in any of the ICs in the two seasons Zeke played in.

Post by Rick
Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender females
who were born male and compete in female sports.  We have had at least
one transgender cast member in the past and possibly more.  Perhaps
the show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay away from
gender-based rewards in the future.

They will when needed. I don't see a problem with them doing it
otherwise. Do you think Sue could have outlast Kyle?

Yes, I do. I think Sue is in amazing shape and could have outlasted
Kyle, who seemed to be struggling. She told an interviewer that she
trained for the show by running three to four miles a day in a weighted
vest to build up her strength and endurance.

We don't really know a lot about Sue, which might be an indication she
won't make it to the end. I'd like to lean more about this pilot who
grew up on an island without indoor plumbing and who eventually founded
and runs her own flight school. I think she is a much more resourceful
and interesting person than the show has revealed so far.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick
I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners.  I assume the challenges and rules are established
in advance before the cast is selected, and in this day and age, it
seems to me it's only a matter of time before we get a player who
identifies as non-binary.  I wonder how the show would handle that in
the context of male and female winners?

The show would probably avoid such a scenario. I don't recall them
doing male and female winners in any of the ICs in the two seasons
Zeke played in.

Post by Rick
Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender
females who were born male and compete in female sports.  We have had
at least one transgender cast member in the past and possibly more.
Perhaps the show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay away from
gender-based rewards in the future.

They will when needed. I don't see a problem with them doing it
otherwise. Do you think Sue could have outlast Kyle?

Yes, I do.  I think Sue is in amazing shape and could have outlasted
Kyle, who seemed to be struggling.  She told an interviewer that she
trained for the show by running three to four miles a day in a weighted
vest to build up her strength and endurance.

Damn! That's impressive.

We don't really know a lot about Sue, which might be an indication she
won't make it to the end.  I'd like to lean more about this pilot who
grew up on an island without indoor plumbing and who eventually founded
and runs her own flight school.  I think she is a much more resourceful
and interesting person than the show has revealed so far.

Was this all in her bio? I never did get around to reading any of their
bios.

Sue must have a pretty good social game. Younger players normally want
nothing to do with older ones yet Sue had two come to her on Day 1 and
form what appears to be very tight bonds. I'd like to know more about
her bond with Caroline. Why is Caroline so close to her? Or is Caroline
close to everyone? I don't recall her being on anyone's radar and they
all seem to love her. Maybe she's the most dangerous player left in the
game.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick
I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners.  I assume the challenges and rules are
established in advance before the cast is selected, and in this day
and age, it seems to me it's only a matter of time before we get a
player who identifies as non-binary.  I wonder how the show would
handle that in the context of male and female winners?

The show would probably avoid such a scenario. I don't recall them
doing male and female winners in any of the ICs in the two seasons
Zeke played in.

Post by Rick
Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender
females who were born male and compete in female sports.  We have
had at least one transgender cast member in the past and possibly
more. Perhaps the show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay
away from gender-based rewards in the future.

They will when needed. I don't see a problem with them doing it
otherwise. Do you think Sue could have outlast Kyle?

Yes, I do.  I think Sue is in amazing shape and could have outlasted
Kyle, who seemed to be struggling.  She told an interviewer that she
trained for the show by running three to four miles a day in a
weighted vest to build up her strength and endurance.

Damn! That's impressive.

We don't really know a lot about Sue, which might be an indication she
won't make it to the end.  I'd like to lean more about this pilot who
grew up on an island without indoor plumbing and who eventually
founded and runs her own flight school.  I think she is a much more
resourceful and interesting person than the show has revealed so far.

Was this all in her bio? I never did get around to reading any of their
bios.

Some is in her bio and the Survivor Wiki, and some I picked up in other
articles I read.

Interestingly, the previous Survivor player she admires the most was
Tony Vlachos, and she told Mike Bloom in his Parade interview with her
that she fancies herself the "Female Tony". She def has a harder edge
than they've really shown so far.

Post by Brian Smith
Sue must have a pretty good social game. Younger players normally want
nothing to do with older ones yet Sue had two come to her on Day 1 and
form what appears to be very tight bonds. I'd like to know more about
her bond with Caroline. Why is Caroline so close to her? Or is Caroline
close to everyone? I don't recall her being on anyone's radar and they
all seem to love her. Maybe she's the most dangerous player left in the
game.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick
I was a little surprised they had separate male and female immunity
challenge winners.  I assume the challenges and rules are
established in advance before the cast is selected, and in this day
and age, it seems to me it's only a matter of time before we get a
player who identifies as non-binary.  I wonder how the show would
handle that in the context of male and female winners?

The show would probably avoid such a scenario. I don't recall them
doing male and female winners in any of the ICs in the two seasons
Zeke played in.

Post by Rick
Also we often read about controversies surrounding transgender
females who were born male and compete in female sports.  We have
had at least one transgender cast member in the past and possibly
more. Perhaps the show should be sensitive to this and maybe stay
away from gender-based rewards in the future.

They will when needed. I don't see a problem with them doing it
otherwise. Do you think Sue could have outlast Kyle?

Yes, I do.  I think Sue is in amazing shape and could have outlasted
Kyle, who seemed to be struggling.  She told an interviewer that she
trained for the show by running three to four miles a day in a
weighted vest to build up her strength and endurance.

Damn! That's impressive.

We don't really know a lot about Sue, which might be an indication
she won't make it to the end.  I'd like to lean more about this pilot
who grew up on an island without indoor plumbing and who eventually
founded and runs her own flight school.  I think she is a much more
resourceful and interesting person than the show has revealed so far.

Was this all in her bio? I never did get around to reading any of
their bios.

Some is in her bio and the Survivor Wiki, and some I picked up in other
articles I read.
Interestingly, the previous Survivor player she admires the most was
Tony Vlachos, and she told Mike Bloom in his Parade interview with her
that she fancies herself the "Female Tony".  She def has a harder edge
than they've really shown so far.

So far she doesn't remind me of Tony at all. Speaking of Tony,
apparently Kyle's the first player to win three Individual Immunities
since Tony. Also, Sue is apparently the oldest player to ever win
Individual Immunity.