S47 Ep05 Spoilers and Comments (10/16/2024)

[Brian Smith]

Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."

More later...

[Brian Smith]

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion? Sol
and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on. Rome
seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's going on,
good for her.

--I thought the RC twist was great. Having them come in with just setups
for Blue and Yellow was brilliant. I was very happy when Jeff said the
two-tribe setup was just for that challenge and that no one would be
sitting out. The reward was also great. A trip to the Sanctuary where
there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour where they would
get a chance to get info and bond with players from other tribes as well
as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.

--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?

--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over him
several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone. She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight. Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.

--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the rope.
He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing to risk
his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam is calling
the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would have gone
home for sure tonight.

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of accused Rachel of
knowing what the plan was.

--At the very end, unless I missed it, they did not show the votes. We
saw Anika crying when doing her Final Words and saying how devastated
she was. Good thing for Sam's crew that she did not make the jury as I
think she would be a bitter juror.

Next Episode

Sounds like we might be merging after a twist. If that's the case, it's
perfect timing for T and for Rachel.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of accused Rachel of
knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant move.
Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready
to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three
of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of accused
Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant move.
Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge to
make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was
ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the
three of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of
accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant move.
Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge to
make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

Are they allowed to keep expired idols, etc.? In BB they have a rule
that you can't use production for strategy. I think using an expired
power would fall into that category.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

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Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was
ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was
the three of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika
kind of accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant move.
Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge to
make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

Are they allowed to keep expired idols, etc.? In BB they have a rule
that you can't use production for strategy. I think using an expired
power would fall into that category.

They are not allowed to take them home as souvenirs when they leave the
show. But I believe we've seen people pass off expired idols as real
before. Someone can fact check me on that. I might be thinking of one
of the international versions.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was
ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was
the three of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika
kind of accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant
move. Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge to
make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

Are they allowed to keep expired idols, etc.? In BB they have a rule
that you can't use production for strategy. I think using an expired
power would fall into that category.

They are not allowed to take them home as souvenirs when they leave the
show.  But I believe we've seen people pass off expired idols as real
before. Someone can fact check me on that.  I might be thinking of one
of the international versions.

I'd like to see this addressed. There's a big difference between an
expired idol and a fake one as far as I'm concerned.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that
Andy, Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she
was ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it
was the three of them that voted her out. I was surprised that
Anika kind of accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant
move. Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge to
make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

Are they allowed to keep expired idols, etc.? In BB they have a rule
that you can't use production for strategy. I think using an expired
power would fall into that category.

They are not allowed to take them home as souvenirs when they leave
the show.  But I believe we've seen people pass off expired idols as
real before. Someone can fact check me on that.  I might be thinking
of one of the international versions.

I'd like to see this addressed. There's a big difference between an
expired idol and a fake one as far as I'm concerned.

My memory was correct on this. In Survivor 35, Chrissy was given a
super idol that expired at her first TC, but she held onto it and passed
it off as real during the final episode to try to dissuade Ben from
finding a real one. More info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor:_Heroes_vs._Healers_vs._Hustlers

[Brian Smith]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

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Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that
Andy, Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like
she was ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy
said it was the three of them that voted her out. I was surprised
that Anika kind of accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

Forgot to mention that Sam not playing his idol was a brilliant
move. Keeps Andy thinking that Sam tells him everything.

It also gives him a fake idol he can use at some point post-merge
to make someone (maybe Andy?) think he now has an idol.

Are they allowed to keep expired idols, etc.? In BB they have a rule
that you can't use production for strategy. I think using an expired
power would fall into that category.

They are not allowed to take them home as souvenirs when they leave
the show.  But I believe we've seen people pass off expired idols as
real before. Someone can fact check me on that.  I might be thinking
of one of the international versions.

I'd like to see this addressed. There's a big difference between an
expired idol and a fake one as far as I'm concerned.

My memory was correct on this.  In Survivor 35, Chrissy was given a
super idol that expired at her first TC, but she held onto it and passed
it off as real during the final episode to try to dissuade Ben from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor:_Heroes_vs._Healers_vs._Hustlers

Good memory!

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion? Sol
and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on. Rome
seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's going on,
good for her.

Yeah, I think she is running that tribe and has Rome completely under
her control. Funny how the animus Rome was showing toward Sol seems to
have completely dissolved and they are like buddies now. I wonder if
anyone talked to Rome off-camera?

Post by Brian Smith
--I thought the RC twist was great. Having them come in with just setups
for Blue and Yellow was brilliant. I was very happy when Jeff said the
two-tribe setup was just for that challenge and that no one would be
sitting out. The reward was also great. A trip to the Sanctuary where
there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour where they would
get a chance to get info and bond with players from other tribes as well
as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over him
several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone. She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight. Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the rope.
He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing to risk
his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam is calling
the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would have gone
home for sure tonight.
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of accused Rachel of
knowing what the plan was.

I thought Andy's giddiness about being part of the vote was pretty
childish. He could not stop smiling, even when he was walking out of
TC, and it was really off-putting. I'm starting to really dislike the
guy and hope he gets voted out soon.

Anika looked pretty shell-shocked and the look she gave the three who
voted for her made me think for a moment she was going to say something
like "Wow - three pretty white kids vote out the minority girl with dark
skin." Fortunately, the show hasn't gotten into much racial talk since
the awful S41, but I almost thought we'd hear something here. Will be
interesting to hear what she has to say in her interview with Rob C. today.

Post by Brian Smith
--At the very end, unless I missed it, they did not show the votes. We
saw Anika crying when doing her Final Words and saying how devastated
she was. Good thing for Sam's crew that she did not make the jury as I
think she would be a bitter juror.

They showed the votes. Three votes for Anika, Rachel voted for Andy and
no vote for Anika. Andy was smiling when he showed his vote. I'm
really disliking that boy.

Post by Brian Smith
Next Episode
Sounds like we might be merging after a twist. If that's the case, it's
perfect timing for T and for Rachel.

It's probably that fake merge "mergatory" thing where they split into
two tribes of six plus someone who sits out and picks the tribe to
support. The winning tribe makes the merge and the losers are up for
elimination. I would love it if Andy, Rome, Sam and Gabe are somehow on
the losing tribe (unlikely) since I don't care much for any of them.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion?
Sol and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on.
Rome seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's
going on, good for her.

Yeah, I think she is running that tribe and has Rome completely under
her control.  Funny how the animus Rome was showing toward Sol seems to
have completely dissolved and they are like buddies now.  I wonder if
anyone talked to Rome off-camera?

Wouldn't surprise me if a producer told him his behavior was making him
look bad and would be part of the edit.

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
--I thought the RC twist was great. Having them come in with just
setups for Blue and Yellow was brilliant. I was very happy when Jeff
said the two-tribe setup was just for that challenge and that no one
would be sitting out. The reward was also great. A trip to the
Sanctuary where there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour
where they would get a chance to get info and bond with players from
other tribes as well as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over
him several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone. She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight. Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the
rope. He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing
to risk his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam
is calling the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would
have gone home for sure tonight.
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready
to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three
of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of accused
Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

I thought Andy's giddiness about being part of the vote was pretty
childish.  He could not stop smiling, even when he was walking out of
TC, and it was really off-putting.   I'm starting to really dislike the
guy and hope he gets voted out soon.

I agree. He's the last person who should be acting cocky.

Post by Rick
Anika looked pretty shell-shocked and the look she gave the three who
voted for her made me think for a moment she was going to say something
like "Wow - three pretty white kids vote out the minority girl with dark
skin."  Fortunately, the show hasn't gotten into much racial talk since
the awful S41, but I almost thought we'd hear something here.  Will be
interesting to hear what she has to say in her interview with Rob C. today.

I'm glad you brought up the racial stuff because I was thinking the same
thing, especially when she thought Rachel knew the plan. I haven't
watched any interviews yet but I'm interested in seeing what she has to say.

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
--At the very end, unless I missed it, they did not show the votes. We
saw Anika crying when doing her Final Words and saying how devastated
she was. Good thing for Sam's crew that she did not make the jury as I
think she would be a bitter juror.

They showed the votes.  Three votes for Anika, Rachel voted for Andy and
no vote for Anika.  Andy was smiling when he showed his vote.  I'm
really disliking that boy.

Did they show "Previously on Survivor..." at the start of the episode?
The station I watched it on started off with Lavo back at camp and
skipped the recap and credits.

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
Next Episode
Sounds like we might be merging after a twist. If that's the case,
it's perfect timing for T and for Rachel.

It's probably that fake merge "mergatory" thing where they split into
two tribes of six plus someone who sits out and picks the tribe to
support.  The winning tribe makes the merge and the losers are up for
elimination.  I would love it if Andy, Rome, Sam and Gabe are somehow on
the losing tribe (unlikely) since I don't care much for any of them.

I hate that random draw crap.

I don't mind Sam. He seems like he knows what he's doing.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
Tonight's episode is titled "The Scales Be Tippin."
More later...

--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion?
Sol and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on.
Rome seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's
going on, good for her.

Yeah, I think she is running that tribe and has Rome completely under
her control.  Funny how the animus Rome was showing toward Sol seems
to have completely dissolved and they are like buddies now.  I wonder
if anyone talked to Rome off-camera?

Wouldn't surprise me if a producer told him his behavior was making him
look bad and would be part of the edit.

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
--I thought the RC twist was great. Having them come in with just
setups for Blue and Yellow was brilliant. I was very happy when Jeff
said the two-tribe setup was just for that challenge and that no one
would be sitting out. The reward was also great. A trip to the
Sanctuary where there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour
where they would get a chance to get info and bond with players from
other tribes as well as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants
Gabe gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth
over him several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in
front of everyone. She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight.
Sam and Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the
rope. He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing
to risk his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam
is calling the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would
have gone home for sure tonight.
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was
super confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy,
Sierra, and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was
ready to fight after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the
three of them that voted her out. I was surprised that Anika kind of
accused Rachel of knowing what the plan was.

I thought Andy's giddiness about being part of the vote was pretty
childish.  He could not stop smiling, even when he was walking out of
TC, and it was really off-putting.   I'm starting to really dislike
the guy and hope he gets voted out soon.

I agree. He's the last person who should be acting cocky.

Post by Rick
Anika looked pretty shell-shocked and the look she gave the three who
voted for her made me think for a moment she was going to say
something like "Wow - three pretty white kids vote out the minority
girl with dark skin."  Fortunately, the show hasn't gotten into much
racial talk since the awful S41, but I almost thought we'd hear
something here.  Will be interesting to hear what she has to say in
her interview with Rob C. today.

I'm glad you brought up the racial stuff because I was thinking the same
thing, especially when she thought Rachel knew the plan. I haven't
watched any interviews yet but I'm interested in seeing what she has to say.

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
--At the very end, unless I missed it, they did not show the votes.
We saw Anika crying when doing her Final Words and saying how
devastated she was. Good thing for Sam's crew that she did not make
the jury as I think she would be a bitter juror.

They showed the votes.  Three votes for Anika, Rachel voted for Andy
and no vote for Anika.  Andy was smiling when he showed his vote.  I'm
really disliking that boy.

Did they show "Previously on Survivor..." at the start of the episode?
The station I watched it on started off with Lavo back at camp and
skipped the recap and credits.

Keep watching. They did ten seconds at Lavo with Anika reporting on the
sanctuary stuff, then they did the "previously on" and then the complete
opening credits showing all the players.

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith
Next Episode
Sounds like we might be merging after a twist. If that's the case,
it's perfect timing for T and for Rachel.

It's probably that fake merge "mergatory" thing where they split into
two tribes of six plus someone who sits out and picks the tribe to
support.  The winning tribe makes the merge and the losers are up for
elimination.  I would love it if Andy, Rome, Sam and Gabe are somehow
on the losing tribe (unlikely) since I don't care much for any of them.

I hate that random draw crap.
I don't mind Sam. He seems like he knows what he's doing.

[Zeppo]

Post by Rick
Funny how the animus Rome was showing toward Sol seems to
have completely dissolved and they are like buddies now. I wonder if
anyone talked to Rome off-camera?

I doubt it. Jerome’s evaluation of the usefulness of his tribe mates
is based purely on loyalty/disloyalty. He likes Genevieve because
she tipped him off about Kishan’s plan, he likes Solomon because
he voted for Kishan, and he dislikes Christeenie because she failed
to tip him off like Genevieve had done.

Post by Rick
I thought Andy's giddiness about being part of the vote was pretty
childish. He could not stop smiling, even when he was walking out of
TC, and it was really off-putting. I'm starting to really dislike the
guy and hope he gets voted out soon.

I agree! However, given the depth of the game story that the editors
have begun to construct for him, I fear that he will be around for quite
a while.

[Zeppo]

Post by Brian Smith
--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion? Sol
and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on. Rome
seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's going on,
good for her.

Jerome was responsible for all the confusion leading up to the E04 TC,
not Genevieve. If he had just kept his mouth shut prior to the vote, the
idea of switching the target would probably not have occurred to Kishan,
and Solomon would have been voted out 3-1 with minimal drama.

Post by Brian Smith
The reward was also great. A trip to the Sanctuary where
there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour where they would
get a chance to get info and bond with players from other tribes as well
as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.

Well, I saw it somewhat differently. It brought to mind some of the
“bargain basement” rewards that we saw in S46. A few litres of generic
soda, one hot dog each (without condiments), and a bean bag toss
game was a pretty poor excuse for a reward.

Post by Brian Smith
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?

That was actually in the immunity challenge. The reward challenge had
the basketball toss finale which was made more challenging by requiring
each new player to move one pace back before throwing. The seventh
person ended up being a hell of a long way from the baskets.

Post by Brian Smith
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over him
several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone.

Ha! I agree!

Post by Brian Smith
She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight.

It was stupid game play no matter what the circumstances, but I am very
impressed that, up until Day 10, Gabe, Leatherface, and Carolyn had
been able to keep their alliance a secret on a tribe of only 5.

Post by Brian Smith
Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.

Christeenie didn’t give much up either.

Post by Brian Smith
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the rope.
He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing to risk
his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam is calling
the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would have gone
home for sure tonight.

And once again, the long finger of Jeff Probst points the way to fucking up
another player’s game.:-(. If Anika hadn’t been forced to go on that
stupid
journey in E04, she would have still had her vote at the Day 10 TC.
It’s possible that Sierra would have been less inclined to go along with
Sam’s plan if she knew that she could have joined Rachel and Anika to
send Andy to Losers Lodge.

Post by Brian Smith
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out.

I had somewhat ambivalent feelings about her as a player, but I felt
bad for herafter that vote. I’m just not sure that I understand the
rational behind booting her instead of Andy.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion? Sol
and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on. Rome
seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's going on,
good for her.

Jerome was responsible for all the confusion leading up to the E04 TC,
not Genevieve. If he had just kept his mouth shut prior to the vote, the
idea of switching the target would probably not have occurred to Kishan,
and Solomon would have been voted out 3-1 with minimal drama.

Post by Brian Smith
The reward was also great. A trip to the Sanctuary where
there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour where they would
get a chance to get info and bond with players from other tribes as well
as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.

Well, I saw it somewhat differently. It brought to mind some of the
“bargain basement” rewards that we saw in S46. A few litres of generic
soda, one hot dog each (without condiments), and a bean bag toss
game was a pretty poor excuse for a reward.

Post by Brian Smith
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?

That was actually in the immunity challenge. The reward challenge had
the basketball toss finale which was made more challenging by requiring
each new player to move one pace back before throwing. The seventh
person ended up being a hell of a long way from the baskets.

I was worried I had the challenges mixed up. The point I wanted to make
is that Rachel realizes the importance of focusing on the task at hand
which makes her a dangerous player. Hopefully she can make the merge and
break free from Andy.

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over him
several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone.

Ha! I agree!

Post by Brian Smith
She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight.

It was stupid game play no matter what the circumstances, but I am very
impressed that, up until Day 10, Gabe, Leatherface, and Carolyn had
been able to keep their alliance a secret on a tribe of only 5.

Post by Brian Smith
Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.

Christeenie didn’t give much up either.

That's true. She's another one who will benefit from the merge.

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the rope.
He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing to risk
his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam is calling
the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would have gone
home for sure tonight.

And once again, the long finger of Jeff Probst points the way to fucking up
another player’s game.:-(. If Anika hadn’t been forced to go on that
stupid
journey in E04, she would have still had her vote at the Day 10 TC.
It’s possible that Sierra would have been less inclined to go along with
Sam’s plan if she knew that she could have joined Rachel and Anika to
send Andy to Losers Lodge.

I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her. Even
worse, they'll likely end up losing the 18 eggs when they merge. Keeping
Andy over Anika will also likely bite Sierra in the ass down the road.
No way will Sam choose her over Andy to take to the end.

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out.

I had somewhat ambivalent feelings about her as a player, but I felt
bad for herafter that vote. I’m just not sure that I understand the
rational behind booting her instead of Andy.

I do for Sam. Andy is blindly loyal to him and a goat. As for Sierra,
she must trust and/or have more faith in Sam than Anika and Rachel.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--The opening segment with Lavo back at camp after the last TC didn't
clear much up for me. Is Gen causing all of the chaos and confusion? Sol
and Teeny are clearly confused and have no idea what's going on. Rome
seems confused as well. If Gen's got them all wondering what's going on,
good for her.

Jerome was responsible for all the confusion leading up to the E04 TC,
not Genevieve. If he had just kept his mouth shut prior to the vote, the
idea of switching the target would probably not have occurred to Kishan,
and Solomon would have been voted out 3-1 with minimal drama.

Post by Brian Smith
The reward was also great. A trip to the Sanctuary where
there would be a new twist--the Survivor Social Hour where they would
get a chance to get info and bond with players from other tribes as well
as have a bit of food and play Cornhole.

Well, I saw it somewhat differently. It brought to mind some of the
“bargain basement” rewards that we saw in S46. A few litres of generic
soda, one hot dog each (without condiments), and a bean bag toss
game was a pretty poor excuse for a reward.

Post by Brian Smith
--I liked that the RC had some new elements to it such as having to
knock down a heavy puzzle and then rebuild it. Did you catch Rachel
saying "No fighting guys" when they were building the puzzle?

That was actually in the immunity challenge. The reward challenge had
the basketball toss finale which was made more challenging by requiring
each new player to move one pace back before throwing. The seventh
person ended up being a hell of a long way from the baskets.

I was worried I had the challenges mixed up. The point I wanted to make
is that Rachel realizes the importance of focusing on the task at hand
which makes her a dangerous player. Hopefully she can make the merge and
break free from Andy.

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--The Sanctuary visit was very interesting. I had no idea T wants Gabe
gone so badly. She threw him UTB and then ran it back and forth over him
several times. Very stupid move on her part doing so in front of
everyone.

Ha! I agree!

Post by Brian Smith
She must not realize that Sue and Gabe are tight.

It was stupid game play no matter what the circumstances, but I am very
impressed that, up until Day 10, Gabe, Leatherface, and Carolyn had
been able to keep their alliance a secret on a tribe of only 5.

Post by Brian Smith
Sam and
Rachel played it smart giving up very little info.

Christeenie didn’t give much up either.

That's true. She's another one who will benefit from the merge.

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--Andy had me laughing during the IC when he was trying to cut the rope.
He's so lucky that Sam is telling him what to do and is willing to risk
his game to drag him to the end. Tonight also showed that Sam is calling
the shots and not Sierra. If it wasn't for Sam, Andy would have gone
home for sure tonight.

And once again, the long finger of Jeff Probst points the way to fucking up
another player’s game.:-(. If Anika hadn’t been forced to go on that
stupid
journey in E04, she would have still had her vote at the Day 10 TC.
It’s possible that Sierra would have been less inclined to go along with
Sam’s plan if she knew that she could have joined Rachel and Anika to
send Andy to Losers Lodge.

I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her. Even
worse, they'll likely end up losing the 18 eggs when they merge. Keeping
Andy over Anika will also likely bite Sierra in the ass down the road.
No way will Sam choose her over Andy to take to the end.

Anika addressed the chickens in a couple of her interviews today. This
is what she told John Powell:

"I wasn’t anti killing the chicken but I’m aware that Sam and Andy are
going to kill the chicken and they’re going to hand it to me to cut with
my dull machete. I don’t have a cutting board. I’m going to get
salmonella with all the blood on chicken, blood on my hands. I don’t
have soap and water. Our fire is not strong enough…I’m thinking through
all of this and I’m like: I do not know if we can accomplish this in the
time that is needed and we CANNOT be the first tribe to kill a chicken
and not cook it successfully. That was what was going through my head.
I’m happy we didn’t kill it and I’m the one who suggested to them to do
a negotiation. Sierra loved that idea and ran with it."

https://www.globaltv.com/anika-says-a-lot-was-left-out-in-the-survivor-edit-including-the-chicken-debate/

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
--TC tonight saw one of the best blindsides in a while. Anika was super
confident that Andy was going home and had no idea that Andy, Sierra,
and Sam are in a tight alliance. She looked like she was ready to fight
after Jeff read out the votes and Andy said it was the three of them
that voted her out.

I had somewhat ambivalent feelings about her as a player, but I felt
bad for herafter that vote. I’m just not sure that I understand the
rational behind booting her instead of Andy.

I do for Sam. Andy is blindly loyal to him and a goat. As for Sierra,
she must trust and/or have more faith in Sam than Anika and Rachel.

[Zeppo]

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Post by Brian Smith
Keeping
Andy over Anika will also likely bite Sierra in the ass down the road.
No way will Sam choose her over Andy to take to the end.

Yes, I think that Sierra should have thrown her lot in with the two women
rather than Sam (who I am beginning to really dislike). But, as I said
in my earlier post, Anika’s lost vote kind of forced Sierra into a
corner.

Post by Brian Smith
I do for Sam. Andy is blindly loyal to him and a goat. As for Sierra,
she must trust and/or have more faith in Sam than Anika and Rachel.

Anika felt the same way about Sam as Sierra according to her exit interview.
That’s why she was so devastated at being voted out. She really
trusted the guy.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in an
episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.

I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with him
that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say. Someone
left a comment which destroys her reasoning.

https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010

This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.

All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are against
you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would fault that
logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of fake reasons
about how it’s essentially too much work.

This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for people
that don't know better.

https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht

I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their fire
wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not hot enough
to cook the chicken?

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
Keeping
Andy over Anika will also likely bite Sierra in the ass down the road.
No way will Sam choose her over Andy to take to the end.

Yes, I think that Sierra should have thrown her lot in with the two women
rather than Sam (who I am beginning to really dislike). But, as I said
in my earlier post, Anika’s lost vote kind of forced Sierra into a
corner.

Post by Brian Smith
I do for Sam. Andy is blindly loyal to him and a goat. As for Sierra,
she must trust and/or have more faith in Sam than Anika and Rachel.

Anika felt the same way about Sam as Sierra according to her exit interview.
That’s why she was so devastated at being voted out. She really
trusted the guy.

She must not have realized how close those three are.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in an
episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.
I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with him
that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say. Someone
left a comment which destroys her reasoning.
https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010
This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.
All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are against
you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would fault that
logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of fake reasons
about how it’s essentially too much work.
This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for people
that don't know better.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht
I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their fire
wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not hot enough
to cook the chicken?

In fairness to Anika, she has probably never prepared and cooked a
chicken in the wild before (I mean, how many people have?). Yes, other
Survivor contestants have done it in the past, but I don't recall how
experienced they were at outdoor cooking like this or whether they had
help from fellow tribe mates. In this case, Anika was clearly
intimidated by what she viewed as a potentially unsanitary effort that
she had probably never done before and believed she'd have to do alone,
and she gave her reasons as best she could.

I'm usually the first to criticize pampered Millennials and Gen-Z types
who seem to want everything handed to them on a platter, but I think I
have to give Anika a pass on this. I think people today are much more
health conscious when it comes to sanitation and cleanliness when
cooking something like chicken, so I can see where she is coming from.

Regarding her comment about the fire not being strong enough, I think
her experience may have been with baking a chicken in an oven at 400
degrees or so and she didn't know how to translate this to boiling it in
a pot where the temp would have likely been lower.

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
Keeping
Andy over Anika will also likely bite Sierra in the ass down the road.
No way will Sam choose her over Andy to take to the end.

Yes, I think that Sierra should have thrown her lot in with the two women
rather than Sam (who I am beginning to really dislike). But, as I said
in my earlier post, Anika’s lost vote kind of forced Sierra into a
corner.

Post by Brian Smith
I do for Sam. Andy is blindly loyal to him and a goat. As for Sierra,
she must trust and/or have more faith in Sam than Anika and Rachel.

Anika felt the same way about Sam as Sierra according to her exit interview.
That’s why she was so devastated at being voted out. She really
trusted the guy.

She must not have realized how close those three are.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in an
episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.
I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with
him that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say.
Someone left a comment which destroys her reasoning.
https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010
This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.
All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are against
you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would fault that
logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of fake reasons
about how it’s essentially too much work.
This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for
people that don't know better.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht
I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their
fire wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not hot
enough to cook the chicken?

In fairness to Anika, she has probably never prepared and cooked a
chicken in the wild before (I mean, how many people have?).  Yes, other
Survivor contestants have done it in the past, but I don't recall how
experienced they were at outdoor cooking like this or whether they had
help from fellow tribe mates.   In this case, Anika was clearly
intimidated by what she viewed as a potentially unsanitary effort that
she had probably never done before and believed she'd have to do alone,
and she gave her reasons as best she could.
I'm usually the first to criticize pampered Millennials and Gen-Z types
who seem to want everything handed to them on a platter, but I think I
have to give Anika a pass on this.  I think people today are much more
health conscious when it comes to sanitation and cleanliness when
cooking something like chicken, so I can see where she is coming from.
Regarding her comment about the fire not being strong enough, I think
her experience may have been with baking a chicken in an oven at 400
degrees or so and she didn't know how to translate this to boiling it in
a pot where the temp would have likely been lower.

I do understand her concerns but she should have known going into the
game that she would have to do such things under less than ideal conditions.

One thing I don't understand about this incident is why she things she
would be asked to cook the chicken. If Andy and Sam killed a chicken why
would Sierra and Rachel not help her make it?

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in
an episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.
I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with
him that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say.
Someone left a comment which destroys her reasoning.
https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010
This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.
All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are against
you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would fault that
logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of fake reasons
about how it’s essentially too much work.
This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for
people that don't know better.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht
I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their
fire wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not hot
enough to cook the chicken?

In fairness to Anika, she has probably never prepared and cooked a
chicken in the wild before (I mean, how many people have?).  Yes,
other Survivor contestants have done it in the past, but I don't
recall how experienced they were at outdoor cooking like this or
whether they had help from fellow tribe mates.   In this case, Anika
was clearly intimidated by what she viewed as a potentially unsanitary
effort that she had probably never done before and believed she'd have
to do alone, and she gave her reasons as best she could.
I'm usually the first to criticize pampered Millennials and Gen-Z
types who seem to want everything handed to them on a platter, but I
think I have to give Anika a pass on this.  I think people today are
much more health conscious when it comes to sanitation and cleanliness
when cooking something like chicken, so I can see where she is coming
from.
Regarding her comment about the fire not being strong enough, I think
her experience may have been with baking a chicken in an oven at 400
degrees or so and she didn't know how to translate this to boiling it
in a pot where the temp would have likely been lower.

I do understand her concerns but she should have known going into the
game that she would have to do such things under less than ideal conditions.

Yeah, but she probably didn't expect to have to cook a chicken. It's
been many years since anyone on the show had to do that. In fact, Rob
C. pointed out the funny coincidence (or maybe not-coincidence) that
they resumed giving chickens as a reward in the first season after Sia
stopped giving out her money awards. Remember, Sia was very sympathetic
to Yau-Man who didn't want to kill the chickens way back when, and
apparently they never did the chicken reward in the years she was
awarding her prizes.

Post by Brian Smith
One thing I don't understand about this incident is why she things she
would be asked to cook the chicken. If Andy and Sam killed a chicken why
would Sierra and Rachel not help her make it?

I'd have to re-watch, but my impression is that in the allocation of
duties to the tribe, Anika was somehow responsible for preparing food
for every one. Perhaps it just worked out that she had more experience
with cooking than the others, so maybe everyone just looked to her when
it came to food preparation.

[Brian Smith]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in
an episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.
I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with
him that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say.
Someone left a comment which destroys her reasoning.
https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010
This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.
All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are
against you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would
fault that logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of
fake reasons about how it’s essentially too much work.
This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for
people that don't know better.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht
I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their
fire wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not
hot enough to cook the chicken?

In fairness to Anika, she has probably never prepared and cooked a
chicken in the wild before (I mean, how many people have?).  Yes,
other Survivor contestants have done it in the past, but I don't
recall how experienced they were at outdoor cooking like this or
whether they had help from fellow tribe mates.   In this case, Anika
was clearly intimidated by what she viewed as a potentially
unsanitary effort that she had probably never done before and
believed she'd have to do alone, and she gave her reasons as best she
could.
I'm usually the first to criticize pampered Millennials and Gen-Z
types who seem to want everything handed to them on a platter, but I
think I have to give Anika a pass on this.  I think people today are
much more health conscious when it comes to sanitation and
cleanliness when cooking something like chicken, so I can see where
she is coming from.
Regarding her comment about the fire not being strong enough, I think
her experience may have been with baking a chicken in an oven at 400
degrees or so and she didn't know how to translate this to boiling it
in a pot where the temp would have likely been lower.

I do understand her concerns but she should have known going into the
game that she would have to do such things under less than ideal conditions.

Yeah, but she probably didn't expect to have to cook a chicken.  It's
been many years since anyone on the show had to do that.  In fact, Rob
C. pointed out the funny coincidence (or maybe not-coincidence) that
they resumed giving chickens as a reward in the first season after Sia
stopped giving out her money awards.  Remember, Sia was very sympathetic
to Yau-Man who didn't want to kill the chickens way back when, and
apparently they never did the chicken reward in the years she was
awarding her prizes.

Good point about Sia. Never realized she had that kind of influence over
production.

FYI, it was Tai that didn't want to kill the chickens.

Post by Brian Smith
One thing I don't understand about this incident is why she things she
would be asked to cook the chicken. If Andy and Sam killed a chicken
why would Sierra and Rachel not help her make it?

I'd have to re-watch, but my impression is that in the allocation of
duties to the tribe, Anika was somehow responsible for preparing food
for every one.  Perhaps it just worked out that she had more experience
with cooking than the others, so maybe everyone just looked to her when
it came to food preparation.

I'd have to rewatch as well but it seems weird to me that they would
saddle just one person with such a big job.

[Rick]

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Rick

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Zeppo

Post by Brian Smith
I wonder if giving up the chickens played a role in Anika's boot? I was
shocked that they gave them up because they couldn't all come to an
agreement on killing them. Was Anika opposed to killing them? If she was
the only one that might have annoyed Sierra enough not to keep her.

Rick covers most of this in another post in this thread. The only thing that
I would add is that the biggest chicken lover on the tribe was Sierra who
was adamantly opposed to killing the chickens. Anika was just concerned
about the process of killing, cleaning, and cooking the birds. FWIW,
Sierra wouldn’t even eat the hermit crabs that the tribe boiled up for
dinner
because she had a pet hermit crab as a child.

Was the hermit crab stuff a bonus scene? I don't recall it being in
an episode unless my mind dismissed as irrelevant info.
I found a clip of Rob asking Anika about the chickens. I agree with
him that she put a lot of thought into what she was going to say.
Someone left a comment which destroys her reasoning.
https://x.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1847312728366416010
This comment and a reply to it were left on the YouTube short RHAP posted.
All of her reasons can be easily debunked. If your morals are
against you killing the chickens that understandable, no one would
fault that logic if that’s how you feel. Don’t make up a bunch of
fake reasons about how it’s essentially too much work.
This. People have been prepping chicken without modern means of
sterilization for thousands of years, this was a fake answer for
people that don't know better.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSEQ2m_gFmM?si=aIvucO1yZNwGY3ht
I agree. We've seen enough tribes in the past cook chicken without
cutting boards, etc. Also, what did Anika mean when she said their
fire wasn't strong enough? Was she worried it would go out or not
hot enough to cook the chicken?

In fairness to Anika, she has probably never prepared and cooked a
chicken in the wild before (I mean, how many people have?).  Yes,
other Survivor contestants have done it in the past, but I don't
recall how experienced they were at outdoor cooking like this or
whether they had help from fellow tribe mates.   In this case, Anika
was clearly intimidated by what she viewed as a potentially
unsanitary effort that she had probably never done before and
believed she'd have to do alone, and she gave her reasons as best
she could.
I'm usually the first to criticize pampered Millennials and Gen-Z
types who seem to want everything handed to them on a platter, but I
think I have to give Anika a pass on this.  I think people today are
much more health conscious when it comes to sanitation and
cleanliness when cooking something like chicken, so I can see where
she is coming from.
Regarding her comment about the fire not being strong enough, I
think her experience may have been with baking a chicken in an oven
at 400 degrees or so and she didn't know how to translate this to
boiling it in a pot where the temp would have likely been lower.

I do understand her concerns but she should have known going into the
game that she would have to do such things under less than ideal conditions.

Yeah, but she probably didn't expect to have to cook a chicken.  It's
been many years since anyone on the show had to do that.  In fact, Rob
C. pointed out the funny coincidence (or maybe not-coincidence) that
they resumed giving chickens as a reward in the first season after Sia
stopped giving out her money awards.  Remember, Sia was very
sympathetic to Yau-Man who didn't want to kill the chickens way back
when, and apparently they never did the chicken reward in the years
she was awarding her prizes.

Good point about Sia. Never realized she had that kind of influence over
production.
FYI, it was Tai that didn't want to kill the chickens.

Right! For some reason, Yau Man and Tai Trang ran together in my mind,
even though Yau would have been on a good nine or ten years earlier.

Post by Brian Smith

Post by Brian Smith
One thing I don't understand about this incident is why she things
she would be asked to cook the chicken. If Andy and Sam killed a
chicken why would Sierra and Rachel not help her make it?

I'd have to re-watch, but my impression is that in the allocation of
duties to the tribe, Anika was somehow responsible for preparing food
for every one.  Perhaps it just worked out that she had more
experience with cooking than the others, so maybe everyone just looked
to her when it came to food preparation.

I'd have to rewatch as well but it seems weird to me that they would
saddle just one person with such a big job.